Baidu, Inc. (BIDU) This fall 2020 Earnings Name Transcript

Baidu, Inc.  (NASDAQ: BIDU) This fall 2020 earnings name dated Feb. 17, 2021

Company Individuals:

Juan Lin — Director of Investor Relations

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Analysts:

Alicia Yap — Citigroup — Analyst

Eddie Leung — Financial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Piyush Mubayi — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Jerry Liu — UBS Securities — Analyst

Alex Yao — JPMorgan Chase & Co. — Analyst

Gregory Zhao — Barclays — Analyst

Natalie Wu — Haitong Worldwide Securities Group Restricted — Analyst

Tian Hou — T.H. Capital — Analyst

Presentation:

Operator

Hi there, women and gents, and thanks, for standing by for Baidu’s Fourth Quarter and Full Yr 2020 Earnings Convention Name. At the moment, all contributors are in a listen-only mode. After administration’s ready remarks, there will likely be a question-and-answer session. As we speak’s convention is being recorded. If in case you have any objections, you could disconnect at the moment.

And I’d now like to show the assembly over to your host for at the moment’s convention, Juan Lin, Baidu’s Director of Investor Relations.

Juan Lin — Director of Investor Relations

Hi there, everybody, and welcome to Baidu’s fourth quarter and full 12 months 2020 convention name. Baidu’s earnings launch was distributed earlier at the moment, and you’ll find a duplicate on our web site in addition to on newswire companies.

On the decision at the moment, we’ve Robin Li, our Co-Founder and Chief Govt Officer; Herman Yu, our Chief Monetary Officer; and Dou Shen, our Govt Vice President in-charge of search and feed. After our ready remarks, we are going to maintain a Q&A session.

Please word that the dialogue at the moment will comprise forward-looking statements made beneath the secure harbor provisions of the US Non-public Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Ahead-looking statements are topic to dangers and uncertainties which will trigger precise outcomes to vary materially from our present expectations. Potential dangers and uncertainties embody, however are usually not restricted to these outlined in our public filings with the SEC, together with our Annual Report on Kind 20-F. Baidu doesn’t undertake any obligation to replace any forward-looking statements, besides as required beneath relevant regulation.

Our earnings press launch and this name embody discussions of sure unaudited non-GAAP monetary measures. We’ve made minor changes to our non-GAAP measures and retroactively utilized these adjustments for comparability functions. Our press launch accommodates a reconciliation of the unaudited non-GAAP measures to the unaudited most instantly comparable GAAP measures and is out there on our IR web site, at ir.baidu.com.

As a reminder, this convention is being recorded. As well as, a webcast of this convention name can even be out there on Baidu’s IR web site.

I’ll now flip the decision over to our CEO, Robin.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Good morning, everybody. Baidu delivered one other strong quarter in This fall with Baidu core income reaching RMB23.1 billion, that’s $3.5 billion, which is up 6% year-over-year and up 8% quarter-on-quarter. The latter was a lot larger than our historic flattish or low single-digit progress from Q3 to This fall. Along with the advance of macroeconomic situations in China, we’re benefiting from the digitalization of business Web.

Baidu core non-advertising income within the fourth quarter grew 52% year-over-year to an annualized run price of $2.6 billion, pushed by the convergence of AI options, cloud companies and client Web. Such convergence is predicted to speed up into the following decade and Baidu stands to profit from it.

Let me elaborate on the tendencies that we’re seeing, ranging from sensible transportation. China goals to lift its international competitiveness within the transport sector by means of aggressive infrastructure constructing. The Chinese language authorities is selling a multi-year plan to put in sensible transportation community in cities with sensors and cameras on public roads, connecting autos with highway facet items to foster safer driving, improved throughput and diminished carbon emission. Such authorities initiative encourages municipal governments to shift their price range in direction of a extra software-defined transportation community. Apollo’s sturdy model in clever driving and our holistic strategy to sensible transportation makes us effectively suited to seize the chance in sensible transportation infrastructure growth.

For instance, Baidu signed a strategic partnership with Guangzhou in Southern China to deploy the world’s first multi-modal autonomous driving Mobility as a Service or MaaS platform. Using Apollo robotaxi and robobus fleets, Guangzhou begins this month to permit commuters within the Huangpu district to call-up public transport companies on demand in lieu of taxis, trip hailing and different conventional gasoline powered public transport companies. The Guangzhou sensible transportation venture takes benefit of Baidu’s main autonomous driving applied sciences and Baidu Cloud’s sturdy expertise infrastructure in addition to leveraging the attain of Baidu App and Baidu Maps, to allow locals easy accessibility to Apollo MaaS.

For enterprise cloud, we’re seeing advert prospects subscribing to Baidu Cloud as a consequence of our sturdy Web basis. For instance, a serious e-commerce firm and current advert buyer started utilizing our cloud companies a 12 months in the past. And up to now 12 months, the advert buyer noticed its enterprise develop to large scale. When the shopper realized that Baidu AI Cloud was in a position to assist companies with over 100 million every day customers and enabled them to increase quickly, the App buyer elevated its buy of Baidu Cloud companies by 82 fold from a 12 months in the past. Over-time, we imagine Baidu AI Cloud stands to profit from our current advertiser base of lots of of 1000’s of enterprises in addition to our supplier neutrality standing within the face of enterprise prospects adopting multi-cloud supplier methods.

From this instance, we see strategic benefit of concurrently working within the AI resolution, cloud companies and Web markets as enterprises and the general public sector embrace digital transformation to strengthen and increase their relationships with their prospects and constituents on-line. As we enter the following decade, Baidu is effectively positioned as a number one AI firm, with a powerful Web basis to grab the large market alternatives in cloud companies, autonomous driving, sensible transportation and different AI powered areas.

Turning to This fall working highlights. Let me begin with AI Cloud. Baidu Cloud continues to be primary in China’s AI public cloud market, per IDC’s newest report, marking the third time that Baidu has topped the listing. Baidu AI Cloud provides a full suite of cloud companies and options and is differentiated out there with our use of AI to energy cloud options and enhance our buyer’s operational effectivity and repair ranges. Our AI options are demonstrating scalability and replicability throughout a number of trade sectors. For instance, our AI name heart resolution, which makes use of Baidu Mind to deal with buyer calls with conversational AI is drawing repeat purchases. Our first key buyer, a serious telecom operator has adopted up with two extra purchases of our AI name heart and put in them of their customer support facilities nationwide.

As we try for buyer satisfaction and best-in-class options, our AI name heart resolution has efficiently expanded from telecom into different sectors together with airline, monetary companies, power and vehicle. By means of larger trade adoption mannequin, coaching time has dropped by greater than 50% and the venture implementation has been shortened to 1 month. Within the space of vertical cloud, the sensible transportation venture with Guangzhou serves as a lighthouse venture for different cities to observe. The deployment of Apollo MaaS permits commuters to order robotaxi and robobus instead of taxi trip or different public transportation.

The implementation of V2X sensible highway infrastructure equips 102 intersections and the streets within the Data Metropolis district of Guangzhou with cameras and sensors, enabling higher visitors administration. Industrial autos getting into the neighborhood are putting in DuerOS powered rearview mirror to allow visitors violation enforcement, even when the license plate of a violating car is roofed by mud. The Guangzhou venture makes use of Apollo ACE transportation engine, which in essence is a transportation cloud resolution. Its processes visitors info from Apollo MaaS and V2X, DuerOS linked autos and Baidu Maps. It offers visitors companies higher info to enhance visitors administration and transportation companies and it allows Apollo and different appropriate autos, higher understanding of surrounding visitors situations.

Equally, we lately signed a second contract with the Metropolis of Baoding to increase protection of Apollo sensible transportation of their metropolis. Our strategic partnerships with Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai, and Chongqing to call a couple of to supply sensible transportation is changing into an essential milestone within the growth of recent cities, serving as a way for public sector to make use of AI to enhance metropolitan visitors, public transportation and air high quality.

Turning to clever driving. We proceed to speculate aggressively in self-driving expertise for passenger autos and robotaxi fleet administration. Apollo was as soon as once more ranked primary in China for autonomous driving based on the 2020 Beijing Autonomous Autos Street Check Report. The report is extremely revered within the trade as Beijing Site visitors Authority intently displays autonomous driving check miles. Apollo amassed check miles reached 4.Three million in December. Apollo has been granted China’s first driverless testing allow and is the one Chinese language firm to be granted driverless testing allow from each California and China.

By way of our autonomous driving operational expertise, Apollo robotaxi and robobus fleets have supplied over 210,000 rides to the general public, as of December 2020. We’re proud that DuerOS for Auto, our working system powering auto infotainment has been put in in over 1 million new autos simply final 12 months, pointing to 2 market tendencies; one, cell, residence and in-vehicle Web are converging. Baidu’s Web platform, designed to attract synergy throughout utilization platform allows DuerOS for Auto to leverage the big developer neighborhood for Baidu Sensible Mini Program, to populate its abilities retailer. And on the identical time, customers profit from the consistency and familiarity of DuerOS abilities developed from cell and residential atmosphere. Two, new automobile consumers are turning to best-in-class self-driving capabilities, in order that they will do extra and luxuriate in their trip in vehicles. The race in direction of constructing new autos with higher self-driving capabilities by means of AI creates an enormous alternative for Baidu.

Let me discuss in regards to the progress of Apollo Self Driving or ASD, which incorporates HD maps, AVP and ANP. To-date, we’ve signed strategic partnerships with 10 main automakers to energy their new car mannequin with Apollo Self Driving companies. Baidu is uniquely positioned to supply excessive definition Map or HD Maps, a important part for self driving to high automakers in China. We’ve invested in Baidu Maps for a few years and are one of many only a few corporations in China providing HD Maps.

Final month, WM Motor, a number one Chinese language EV maker introduced the mass manufacturing of their new W6 SUV as a consequence of launch within the first half of this 12 months with Apollo Automated Valet Parking, or AVP, a Degree Four service choice. We’re excited to announce that we are going to be taking orders of Apollo autonomous navigation pilot, or ANP, which relies on Apollo’s main autonomous driving expertise. This comes well timed as MIIT, China’s transport company releases its draft regulation to permit freeway testing of autonomous driving.

We imagine end-to-end integration of {hardware} and software program will make the perfect car. That’s why we’re within the means of establishing an clever EV firm and we’ve entered into strategic partnerships with multinational automaker, Zhejiang Geely Holding Group (Geely), to supply vehicle design and manufacturing for Baidu’s new EV firm. Geely holds the excellence of best-selling Chinese language vehicle model in previous years, beneath the Volvo and Geely model. By combining Baidu’s experience in autonomous driving and sensible transportation with Geely’s experience, as a number one vehicle and EV producer, we hope to pave the way in which for the long run passenger autos.

Turning to DuerOS, which continues to see sturdy adoption. Month-to-month voice queries from first-party gadgets reached 3.7 billion, that’s up 66% year-over-year. And DuerOS abilities retailer now provides over 4,400 abilities. Our deal with person expertise by means of main AI capabilities, has made Xiaodu Sensible Show primary in international shipments once more, based on all three market analysis corporations, IDC, Technique Analytics and Canalys for the third quarter of 2020.

Turning to cell ecosystem. In December, MAUs of Baidu App reached 544 million. The variety of creators on BJH practically tripled. The overall variety of Sensible Mini Packages grew 124% from a 12 months in the past. The MAU of Sensible Mini Packages reached 414 million. This quantity factors to a thriving Web platform that’s attracting a lot of third-party creators, publishers and repair suppliers. The identical development may be seen in our vertical and neighborhood efforts. For instance, on a quarter-over-quarter foundation, every day common viewership of movies on Baidu Well being grew 92% and every day common reside video classes hosted by healthcare professionals grew 163%.

E-commerce touchs the lives of 1.16 billion Web customers every month in China. By means of our AI constructing blocks, we allow customers to have a single log-on, which means {that a} person can log into our app to examine his or her specific supply standing or summon some specific supply pickup simply by looking out and clicking the relevant supply firm search outcome. The service comfort of our AI constructing blocks enabled every day specific supply service utilization to surpass Four million occasions, only a month after going reside in Baidu App. The vibrancy of our cell ecosystem permits third-party companies to rapidly ramp up, and our search nature helps the survival of long-tail companies. Each day log-in customers on Baidu App surpassed 70%, up 18 factors from a 12 months in the past, which creates a powerful basis for additional progress of third-party companies and non-advertising choices on Baidu.

On monetization, for the fourth quarter, income from Managed Web page reached a 3rd of Baidu Core’s on-line advertising income, up from lower than 24% a 12 months in the past. Over 300,000 Managed Web page prospects have adopted Baidu Advertising Cloud, which allows them to buy advertising companies, construct viewers, generate leads and keep lifetime relationships with customers by means of the instruments and companies provided on our hosted platform. Our Advertising Cloud service offers CRM-like companies, for instance, permitting retailers to message prospects who’ve beforehand interacted with them. So such CRM options facilitate retargeting and different measures to enhance total advertising effectiveness.

We goal to combine YY onto our platform in a deep and thorough manner. Evaluating with different massive cell ecosystems, our non-advertising income represents a a lot smaller proportion, which suggests there’s a enormous potential for upside. The YY acquisition will assist speed-up the event of our non-ad income. We’ll permit YY broadcasters to extend their followers following on Baidu. A whole lot of thousands and thousands of Baidu customers will be capable of get pleasure from extra reside streaming content material by means of Baidu App and Haokan brief movies and Baidu Put up.

We imagine such large-scale product integrations will create vital synergy in content material, infrastructure and monetization. We additionally plan to leverage YY to speed up the divestment of data and knowledge-centric reside streaming on Baidu. These efforts won’t solely enhance person stickiness and vibrancy on our massive Web platform, we imagine reside streaming has the potential to evolve past host tipping to turn out to be a serious manner for neighborhood, Baidu to additional develop and retailers to extend their person engagement and develop their social property on the Baidu platform. Consumer consideration normally shift in direction of interactive content material, with the arrival of 5G and augmented actuality to extend video results, reside streaming will likely be an integral part of future content material growth, and we’re enthusiastic about this chance.

With that, let me flip the decision over to Herman to undergo monetary highlights.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Thanks, Robin. Hi there, everybody. Welcome to Baidu’s fourth quarter 2020 name. All financial quantities utilized in my dialogue are in renminbi except said in any other case. Regardless of an unprecedented 12 months, our enterprise has returned to progress, and our income have been strong within the fourth quarter. Baidu’s on-line advertising is extensively diversified, protecting many industries within the Chinese language financial system and we’re benefiting from a rebound of the Chinese language financial system.

Concurrently, our non-advertising income is rising quickly, particularly for the brand new AI enterprise. Non-advertising income was up 52% within the fourth quarter, reaching 18% of Baidu core income. We lately carried out a TAM service train as a part of our strategic planning course of, and located that the TAM for our non-advertising enterprise together with Web value-added companies, cloud companies and clever driving, earlier than including autonomous driving was 10 occasions the dimensions of our on-line advertising TAM and the anticipated CAGR to 2025 is Three occasions that of our on-line advertising TAM. The potential for our non-advertising enterprise is sort of vital.

For instance, we lately signed a wise transportation venture, whose contract quantity was greater than half 1 / 4’s value of our auto on-line advertising income. There are over 100 cities in China with a inhabitants of over 1 million. When you think about a robobus venture lately experimenting, gathering RMB25 for every trip, if fare assortment turns into possible, we may see a rise in robotaxi demand, which may drive our MaaS income beneath transportation cloud, the service part of fleet administration.

For fiscal 2020, Baidu Core income reached $12.1 billion and we spent 21% of analysis and growth, which is a testomony to our dedication to expertise, particularly within the space of analysis. Our constant heavy funding in expertise has made Baidu PaddlePaddle the quantity two deep studying framework on this planet.

Baidu open AI platform, the biggest developer neighborhood of its variety amongst Chinese language corporations, and our AI patent portfolio, the biggest in China. Our funding in AI runs the gamut of expertise, developer communities, IP patents, AI chip design and abilities. As we started to commercialize AI at scale, the incremental income that we derive will likely be reinvested into product growth, gross sales and venture supply to additional speed up AI commercialization and strengthen our moat in our AI enterprise.

Not like 2C enterprise, 2B and 2G would require that we rent builders, gross sales and engineering supply personnel a couple of quarters forward earlier than they begin contributing to income. On the identical time, as our options turn out to be extra extensively adopted and we develop extra toolkits, margins normally enhance. We also needs to acquire synergy coming from a number of companies scaling, whereas leveraging-off of Baidu Mind, our core AI engine. We’re enthusiastic about our non-advertising alternatives, from cloud companies to sensible transportation, to clever driving, which incorporates self-driving companies, clever EVs, robotaxi fleet administration in addition to non-advertising upside beneath our cell ecosystem.

Turning to monetary highlights. Whole income for the fourth quarter reached RMB30.Three billion or $4.6 billion, rising 5% year-over-year. Our enterprise improved primarily from Baidu Core, which was up 6% year-over-year within the fourth quarter to RMB23.1 billion or $3.5 billion in comparison with down 13%, down 3% and up 2% for Q1, Q2 and Q3, respectively.

Let me offer you extra colour on the progress of every part of Baidu Core. Our AI cloud grew 67% year-over-year, reaching $2 billion on an annualized foundation. Cloud progress benefited from enterprise prospects coming from the Web, media enterprise, monetary companies, transportation and healthcare sectors. Our Clever Driving and OGI income can also be rising, however its near-term contribution will not be as obvious. Apollo Self Driving, what we name ASD companies, are booked on a multiyear foundation, and we acknowledge income when an automakers’ new autos are shipped with the set up of our ASD companies. We’ve signed strategic partnerships with 10 main automakers for ASD and we’re taking orders for autonomous navigation pilot, or ANP.

Our Cellular Ecosystem, lots of our advert verticals are rising, together with healthcare, training, Web, retail, actual property, residence furnishing and auto. In app promoting, nearly all of Baidu Core advert income, continues to see double-digit progress, benefiting from the expansion of search queries and CPM. Advert income is partially offset by Baidu Union the place we’re prioritizing profitability over income progress.

IQIYI income reached RMB7.5 billion, down 1% year-over-year. iQIYI subscribers reached 101.7 million in December 2020, additional strengthening its basis to supply leisure blockbuster originals. Non-GAAP working earnings for Baidu and Baidu Core was RMB7.1 billion and RMB8 billion or $1.2 billion, respectively. Non-GAAP working revenue was down 5% for Baidu Core and non-GAAP working margin for Baidu Core was 35%. Price of income was on RMB14.5 billion, down 6% year-over-year, primarily because of the lower in content material prices, visitors acquisition prices, bandwidth prices and the amortization impairment of intangible property, partially offset by a rise in price of products bought.

SG&A and R&D collectively have been RMB10.Eight billion, up 24% year-over-year, primarily as a consequence of a rise in promotional and R&D personnel-related bills. Adjusted EBITDA for Baidu and for Baidu Core have been RMB8.6 billion and RMB9.Four billion or $1.Four billion respectively. Money and short-term investments for Baidu and Baidu Core on the finish of the 12 months have been RMB162.9 billion and RMB148.6 billion or $22.Eight billion, respectively.

Free money circulate for Baidu, and excluding iQIYI have been RMB3.Eight billion and RMB5.Four billion or $827 million, respectively. Baidu Core had roughly 32,800 full-time workers as of December 31st, up 14% from final 12 months. Through the fourth quarter, we returned $600 million to shareholders, bringing the cumulative share repurchase in 2020 to $1.9 billion in comparison with $709 million in 2019.

Turning to first quarter steerage. For the primary quarter of 2021, Baidu expects income to be between RMB26 billion ($Four billion) and RMB28.5 billion ($4.Four billion), representing a progress price between 15% to 26% year-over-year, which assumes that Baidu Core income will develop between 26% and 39% year-over-year. This steerage doesn’t embody any potential contribution from the acquisition of YY Stay. And the above forecast displays our present and preliminary view, which is topic to substantial uncertainty.

Earlier than I flip the decision again to the operator, let me summarize our fourth quarter outcomes. We’ve made vital strides in making ready Baidu for the following legs of progress. Our heavy funding in expertise has allowed us to construct main AI expertise and put us in a powerful place to pursue enormous, fast-growing market alternatives reminiscent of cloud companies, sensible transportation and clever driving, which incorporates self-driving companies, clever electrical autos and autonomous driving. The TAM for our non-advertising enterprise, earlier than together with autonomous driving, is about 10 occasions that of our on-line advertising enterprise, and the CAGR is Three occasions quicker. We get a glimpse of the impression of those alternatives with This fall non-advertising revenues rising 52% and already reaching 18% of our core revenues.

We view Baidu Core’s enterprise on three income progress curves; Cellular ecosystem, AI cloud and clever driving and OGI, with non-advertising value-added companies and AI cloud to spice up our near-term income progress and with clever driving and different progress initiatives to spice up income progress additional out. Over the previous quarters, we mentioned the aggregation of companies on Baidu platform. The expertise convergence development that Robin talked about will permit Baidu households of apps to be outfitted with distinctive companies provided from us working instantly with enterprises and the general public sector.

Robin gave an instance within the sensible transportation sector. We’re additionally seeing this development within the well being sector, the place we’re working with hospitals to supply their companies and docs larger Web presence. Some name this development in industrial Web, the place there’s a deep integration with enterprises and the general public sector of every trade and supply them with a turnkey resolution to Web presence. Our energy in constructing expertise infrastructure places us better off within the present Web atmosphere, the place synergy is generated from our providing of cloud, different progress initiatives and cell ecosystem concurrently. Our cell ecosystem is benefiting from a rebound within the Chinese language financial system, and we stand to profit from leveraging our massive person base to develop our non-advertising income, reminiscent of totally integrating YY onto Baidu platform.

On capital allocation, our share repurchases in 2020 totaled $1.9 billion, which displays the conviction that we’ve within the course of our enterprise. Over the previous twenty years, we’ve demonstrated a monitor report for long-term progress and powerful profitability. The heavy funding that we’re making to grab progress potential places us on a path to additional enhance our long-term progress.

Let me finish by speaking about our efforts in ESG. We lately launched 4 collection of ESG report, clarifying our coverage in anti-corruption, non-discrimination, privateness safety, information safety, expertise empowerment and low-carbon emission dedication. Extra importantly, Baidu’s effort in autonomous driving, together with empowering EVs and robotaxis in addition to sensible transportation decreased carbon dependency and enabled the advance of visitors congestion and air high quality by means of AI and cloud companies, supporting inexperienced power and inexperienced atmosphere. We’re happy that Baidu’s ESG rating was raised twice final 12 months as we improved the communication of our ESG efforts.

With that, operator, let’s open the decision to questions.

Questions and Solutions:

Operator

Thanks. Women and gents, we are going to now start the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Your first query comes from the road of Alicia Yap from Citigroup. Please ask your query.

Alicia Yap — Citigroup — Analyst

Hello, good morning. Good morning, Robin, Herman and Juan [Foreign Speech]. My query is expounded to your partnership with Geely. Are you able to share with us some colours on the anticipated time line for this new EV to be launched and what Baidu needed to attain out of it? Will Baidu additionally proceed to hunt for partnership with different OEMs to coproduce different EV? And simply associated to that’s, it looks like Geely can also be working with a number of AD corporations and in addition engaged on growing their very own ADAS. So how would you describe the partnership and your relationship with Geely? Thanks.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Hello Alicia, that is Robin. Let me reply your query. Our partnership with Geely relies on the assumption that end-to-end integration, {hardware} and software program will present the perfect expertise for autonomous driving or sensible EV. And up to now, we had lots — we’ve developed a number of very superior autonomous driving applied sciences. We tried to push this to combine into our OEM prospects. However a lot of the conventional OEMs have a tendency to attend till another person adopts the most recent and newest expertise. That’s why we determined it’s time for us to only construct a benchmark car to indicate that how good the expertise is. It additionally serves the aim of higher and quicker and stronger suggestions loop, in order that we will enhance our self-driving expertise quicker. Proper now, the enterprise is progressing very effectively. We’ve a CEO on board, and we’ve selected the model of the brand new car. As you already know, it normally takes round three years from the start to the launch of a brand new EV mannequin and we attempt to do the identical for this new enterprise.

However, Apollo and Baidu Mind, basically, stays to be a really open platform. We’ll proceed to work with different OEMs to supply the expertise and the merchandise to them, each time that’s wanted. We’ll serve them to our greatest efforts. And up to now, it’s simply with out somebody first attempting, they have a tendency to attend. Now we’ve flagship the place we’ve a benchmark, they will observe. I’m certain it can additionally assist the income of the Apollo expertise supplier product of autonomous driving.

Operator

Nice. Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Eddie Leung from Financial institution of America Merrill Lynch. Please ask your query.

Eddie Leung — Financial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Hello, good morning guys. Simply I’ve a follow-up query on AI Cloud. I keep in mind one of many key causes behind AI Cloud is that it ought to have higher margins than a few of your opponents, that are targeted on a number of the extra infrastructure cloud companies. So simply questioning if you happen to can provide some, not essentially a really quantitative steerage, however some margin outlook in your AI cloud thesis, given a few of your opponents already are attaining a breakeven standing? Thanks.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah. Hello Eddie, Glad New Yr. And that is Herman. I’ll take that. So for our cloud, we’ve a number of items of enterprise in our cloud. We talked about our enterprise cloud, which is IaaS, however we differentiate out there, with AI options reminiscent of PaaS and SaaS. And clearly, once we’re in a position to do PaaS and SaaS, we see there’s far more profitability to be remodeled IaaS. However what we’ve to acknowledge is that, while you’re going right into a software program house of PaaS and IaaS, initially, it won’t be very worthwhile. For instance, the AI resolution that Robin talked about, once we did our first resolution a few years in the past, that was really a really, very poor margin, since you’re going into a brand new atmosphere, you may need a superb product, the place you’ve bought to spend so much of effort to combine along with your current legacy programs. In order you construct that out, as you’re promoting to extra prospects and so forth, and also you make your product extra standardized, then the following few variations of this permits your revenue margin to extend.

So as a result of we’re rising so quick and we’re attempting lots on new product, we might not count on revenue margin at this stage to be very worthwhile. However once we have a look at our product life cycle, such because the automated AI resolution, buyer resolution, name heart, we will see that over time that, that margin tendencies up. So to reply your query, I feel on the one half, on enterprise cloud and so forth, one, our margin goes to be a perform of how a lot is PaaS and the way a lot is PaaS and SaaS and the way a lot is IaaS. I feel IaaS over time, as a result of we’re differentiating with SaaS and PaaS, over time, when that proportion, issues go larger and greater, I feel our profitability will likely be higher, particularly when merchandise matures.

After which one other massive a part of our cloud is, for instance, a vertical cloud reminiscent of sensible transportation. And once more, that precept of product maturity, that precept of how — what mixture of that’s software program and so forth, I feel total, all of this is able to be very useful.

And simply to reply your query, a few of our opponents could be worthwhile and so forth. I feel it actually will depend on the enterprise that you just need to be in and sadly, we don’t have the luxurious of a few of our friends the place they will simply allocate bills proper to their different companies and so forth, as a result of the infrastructure is identical. So I feel profitably, I feel one is the way you do allocation of bills. One other is, are you targeted extra on software program? Do you’ve got a differentiation within the software program sector, reminiscent of our AI options? After which, how mature your product is over the product life cycle. I feel these are determinations of future profitability.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Piyush Mubayi from Goldman Sachs. Please ask your query.

Piyush Mubayi — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Thanks for taking my query and congratulations, Robin and Herman for a splendid quarter, an ideal outlook. Can I simply return to the clever EV firm that you just talked about, Robin? And also you talked a couple of three-year lead time to get a automobile to market beneath the identify. So you chose a reputation, let’s name it, Baidu automobile in the interim. Why wouldn’t it take three years for that to occur first? And second, while you launch that automobile, and I’m simply attempting to fish right here additionally, what segments are you focusing on? And are you focusing on a sure market share on this explosively rising market? And we’re attempting to get a greater sense of how this may evolve with time. And whereas that is occurring, what occurs to the income strains, as we begin to see accrue from the ANP particularly. So if you happen to may give us a way of what pricing could possibly be like, with merchandise just like the ANP, that has simply gone, I believe, reside proper now. And I’ll cease there.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Hello Piyush. Yeah. As I discussed that the explanation we’re doing this sensible EV that we need to convey the perfect of our expertise to the market. So the primary promoting level of this new automobile mannequin will likely be extra on the software program facet or the — the software program and {hardware} integration, in order that has a greater autonomous driving functionality in addition to higher infotainment due to DuerOS for Auto, and so on. We’ll announce that the value vary or demographic goal once we assume it’s mature sufficient or once we are actually prepared for that. However that signifies that, that you could depend on that, that we are going to attempt to speed-up the method to launch this new automobile as quickly as we will and it is going to be the perfect automobile on {the marketplace}, with finest autonomous driving expertise and that infotainment for the neatest automobile. Individuals typically name the category EV, however for us, the true level just isn’t electrical, the true level is clever. And we’re finest by way of the clever driving and we are going to totally leverage this type of capabilities within the new automobile enterprise.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah. And let me elaborate that, Piyush, when — simply to go a bit of bit deeper, offer you extra colour on the which means of intelligence. So while you have a look at EVs, proper, there are a number of elements. For instance, there may be the ASD, Apollo self driving companies that we talked about. That might be HD Maps, that will be valet parking, that will be navigation pilot, stuff like that, proper? And our mannequin is completely different than most of EV producers the place we license OEM, proper? So we will spend that R&D after which as a result of our market is not only restricted to what number of vehicles we promote, it’s open platform, so we promote to many OEMs. That’s primary.

Quantity two, as well as, with the ability to energy the working system of infotainment, that’s very key, as a result of that requires an enormous ecosystem the place you’ve got a number of content material made. So DuerOS for Auto, as we talked about, we’ve already been put in for over 1 million vehicles in 2020. And once more, that’s an open mannequin we’re working with a number of OEMs. So we’ve the sting in these two areas. As well as, we’re doing autonomous driving, so we will leverage that expertise. And extra importantly, you’ve bought to appreciate, we’re doing this on an ecosystem foundation. So on the one hand, it’s making the automobile extra clever from ASD, from linked autos, from autonomous driving. One other is the truth that we’re doing V2X with sensible transportation. As a result of a number of the important thing information is being gathered on our transportation cloud, whether or not it’s on the highway, whether or not it’s by means of the maps or whether or not it’s linked autos and so forth, we will perceive the highway higher. So all of that information and that functionality will then empower our EV.

So two issues. Primary is, we predict our EV may be extra clever as a result of we’re doing different elements and since R&D is centralized and it helps different producers. And secondly, due to our ecosystem technique, we have been arising from a transportation angle, and in addition from the completely different elements of it.

Operator

All proper. Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from James Lee from Mizuho. Please ask your query.

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Nice. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on a wonderful quarter right here. On the sensible transportation facet, are you able to guys possibly present some framework on the federal government’s plan by way of constructing out throughout the nation? Ought to we take into consideration that build-out being possibly high 30 markets? And in addition possibly assist us perceive the bidding course of for metropolis contracts a bit of bit. Do they select a number of distributors and tech requirements to do testing? And what’s your key benefit in comparison with different working programs? Is it your expertise in autonomous pushed miles or your capacity to supply a number of companies on the platform?

And in addition lastly, possibly, Herman, you’ll be able to tackle this. Are you able to discuss in regards to the degree of investments that’s wanted to make for sensible transportation and in addition for autonomous driving over the following few years? And would you be breaking out the core promoting margin individually, so we will additionally see the natural progress. Sorry for the long-winded questions. Thanks.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Hello, James. By way of sensible transportation, we’re the pioneer of the ACE idea, which signifies that we’re the primary firm to actually take into account transportation as a complete, utilizing extra software-centric options to enhance the throughput, to attach the highway with autos and to assist cut back accidents and cut back carbon emission.

Sure, once we discuss to the potential prospects of all types of various tier cities, they may clearly examine and invite a number of distributors to bid on these form of initiatives. However in virtually all instances, we’re a lot forward of any competitors. Basically, in the event that they care extra in regards to the effectiveness of these sensible transportation initiatives, we win. So we’re a lot forward as a result of Apollo system may be very open and we’ve invested on this space for a lot of, a few years. And our AI functionality offers a really strong basis and we’ve been doing a number of customization for sensible transportation. As Herman talked about beforehand, initially that the margin could possibly be low. However once we repeat this type of initiatives metropolis after metropolis, the margin improves within the total gross margin for sensible metropolis, sensible transportation initiatives maintain enhancing. It’s a lot better than the IaaS and CDN enterprise off of a number of cloud companies.

On investments?

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah, hello. So the great factor is, while you look in our monetary outcomes, the quantity that we’re spending for autonomous driving and in addition for sensible transportation is constructed into our mannequin. So sensible transportation is a part of our AI cloud. So what you’re seeing is already inbuilt there. And also you talked about what does our margin seem like for our core enterprise. I suppose you’re asking for cell ecosystem. So for cell ecosystem, our margin on that, on a non-GAAP foundation normally is between mid-40s to high-40s. And we’ve been fairly constant within the final couple of years. Generally when income in the next quarter, we would attain a bit of bit over 50, however normally, it’s round that vary. And we at present count on to be in that vary proper now. So you’ll be able to see, as I talked in regards to the V-curve progress, cell ecosystem will attempt to keep inside that vary. After which for our new companies and so forth, we have a look at it in another way as a result of that’s extra about are we funding it proper to optimize progress for the following couple of years.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Jerry Liu from UBS. Please ask your query.

Jerry Liu — UBS Securities — Analyst

Hello. Thanks, administration. Glad New Yr. So my query, first is simply to return to the income steerage for the primary quarter, positively a bit stronger than we even anticipated. So needed to take a look at what are a number of the key progress drivers right here. On the non-ad facet, I might assume a few of that is associated to cloud and sensible transportation. I’m questioning if there’s another key progress areas. After which secondarily, within the core promoting enterprise, can we chalk this as much as enhancing macro or are there some possibly completely different dynamics by way of competitors or merchandise? Thanks.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah, let me reply it in numerous elements. We talked about how non-advertising is now 18% of our income and in This fall, it’s rising robustly 52%. We count on non-advertising to proceed to outgrow our total Baidu. So which means, it’s going to — as a result of a number of these are new companies, it’s going to have the ability to pull the burden. Sensible transportation is a part of cloud, and we talked about, it’s over 60-some-percent progress in This fall. So I feel that with our sturdy providing and so forth, I count on this to proceed into 2021, however do acknowledge that there’s seasonality, for instance, when you concentrate on AI cloud, This fall tends to be stronger than Q1. Simply so how the price range works and so forth. However total, I feel non-advertising goes to be driving us, not solely in cloud, for instance, in our different progress initiatives, reminiscent of DuerOS and so forth. We expect that these are all going to be engines of progress.

Piyush talked about earlier about our Apollo self driving companies. That — whereas it’s a small base, however that progress additionally helps. So it’s all of this stuff. After which almost about our promoting enterprise, I feel a number of issues. I feel primary is, the financial system is coming again. So the macro helps actually. However extra importantly, is Baidu App. We talked about in-app companies a number of occasions already. As a result of we’re seeing person conduct switching from browser into in-app companies as a result of we’ve AI constructing block, we’re the one one at this scale in China the place the app was designed as a search app and it’s open. It permits worldwide internet search. It permits content material from all completely different apps and from all completely different web sites. Due to that and since the content material and companies on our platform making the closed-loop native app expertise, the perfect we predict, in China that the AI constructing blocks offers, we predict that, that helps person conduct. And due to nice progress and so forth, that helps drive our income. After which additionally as a result of it’s native app, it’s on the platform. Clearly, CPM helps. So you’ve got visitors progress, you’ve got CPM, after which additionally you’ve got the macro as a backdrop serving to.

Operator

Thanks. Subsequent query comes from Alex Yao from JPMorgan. Please ask your query.

Alex Yao — JPMorgan Chase & Co. — Analyst

Hello. Good morning, administration workforce. Thanks for taking my query and congratulations on a incredible quarter. So I’ve a query concerning the YY integration. Robin, I feel you talked about that you just guys plan to start out integrating YY operation into your individual content material ecosystem within the coming quarters in your ready remarks. Can I verify that the deal continues to be going forward with the beforehand introduced valuation regardless of of the Muddy Water report and the altering regulatory atmosphere of reside broadcasting enterprise in China? After which I feel that you just additionally talked about new enterprise alternatives will progressively unfold as you guys combine YY’s reside streaming operation functionality into your content material ecosystem. Are you able to discuss us by means of a number of the key addressable market and the enterprise mannequin that may doubtlessly unfold with the combination course of.

And lastly, maybe, Herman, are you able to discuss how ought to we take into consideration the monetary impression within the coming quarters as you guys consolidate enterprise and combine the operation into your content material ecosystem? Thanks very a lot.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Alex, let me first reply the enterprise mannequin query and I’ll let Herman to reply the regulatory and monetary steerage query.

By way of this mannequin, we principally view reside streaming as yet one more new type of content material and in addition new type of monetization. For content material, reside streaming is akin to textual content, photos and movies together with lengthy and brief type movies. Stay streaming is only a new type of media. It serves the customers finest while you mix all types of various media kinds and supply them the correct type of media each time obligatory. And YY apparently offers a really vibrant and in addition mature ecosystem for live-streaming content material. Though they’re extra show-based content material, however the functionality may be reworked into different type of reside streaming together with data or e-commerce-related reside streaming.

And by way of — or by way of monetization, we view that the Baidu platform as a complete cell ecosystem with lots of of thousands and thousands of customers go surfing to our platform each day and we more and more present extra native app experiences. Tremendous majority of those customers logged in, in order that we all know who they’re, they usually can have a greater expertise going from right here to there. Proper now, the big person base is primarily monetized by means of promoting. That is form of uncommon while you examine with different massive cell ecosystems. They sometimes have, effectively, greater than 50% of their income coming from non-advertising. And for Baidu, along with promoting or on-line advertising, we will monetize our person base by means of reside streaming, by means of subscription, by means of e-commerce and plenty of different types of income streams. That’s the rationale behind the YY acquisition.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Hey Alex, are you able to assist me with that query on Muddy Water report once more? I didn’t hear the entire thing.

Alex Yao — JPMorgan Chase & Co. — Analyst

Yeah, I imply, I simply need to make clear, the transactions due going forward, regardless of of the Muddy Water report and the altering regulatory atmosphere. And in addition the deal — is the deal nonetheless going forward with the beforehand introduced valuation?

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah. So that you requested fairly a mixture of questions. Close to the Muddy Water report, I feel JOYY has come out with an announcement. As you guys know, they employed a world authorized workforce, they usually additionally employed an enormous lawyer auditor, they usually have made their very own announcement. That’s a JOYY announcement, not a Baidu announcement. So I feel taking a look at that what could be the perfect.

Close to a regulatory atmosphere, we’re cognizant of the scenario. And that’s why we predict that and needed to navigate. As you already know, you’ve got a number of expertise taking a look at this. As you already know, each time there’s a regulatory atmosphere that you must steer in direction of, it’s extra essential to have an even bigger main participant in China, who’ve good relationships with the federal government, who is aware of how you can do issues accurately and so forth. And we would have liked an skilled workforce. And that offers us a greater motive if we’re going right into a reside streaming, we are going to purchase a big skilled workforce. So that is extra of an acquisition of a workforce somewhat than a specific product or only a enterprise. It’s the workforce expertise, is essential.

Close to the contribution and so forth, at present, we’re transferring forward. We’re planning to combine onto our platform as Robin has mentioned. And we’re at present dealing — addressing with some situations and procedures. And we nonetheless is on tempo to do the closing. As we introduced beforehand, we’re transferring forward with this. And the income is normally between RMB2 billion, RMB2.5 billion 1 / 4. So once we can verify all of this factor, that we predict we’ll be capable of come again with that income quantity.

And almost about pricing and so forth, sure, our closing settlement was the unique value. We do have stipulations within the settlement to guard Baidu shareholders. As you talked about, there was a Muddy Water report, the Massive 4 of 2016 got here in, didn’t see something. The worldwide lawyer got here in, didn’t see something. However to guard us, we do have indemnification in there to get a restoration simply in case if one thing blows up in our head because of scenario and so forth.

So did I reply your questions?

Alex Yao — JPMorgan Chase & Co. — Analyst

Nicely, thanks very a lot.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Thanks.

Operator

Thanks. Subsequent query comes from Gregory Zhao from Barclays. Please go forward.

Gregory Zhao — Barclays — Analyst

Hello administration, thanks for taking my query and Glad Chinese language New Yr. So we all know now Baidu has a number of completely different enterprise strains, cloud, autonomous driving, cell, sensible gadgets. So within the every day operation, simply need to know, how the administration workforce allocates for a time spend and efforts amongst all of the completely different segments and what’s your present precedence?

And a fast follow-up in your ADS system. So that you talked about the partnership with some main automakers. So in future, what’s your finest guesstimate of the pricing of the programs? Do you assume the prevailing merchandise reminiscent of Tesla’s SSD is an efficient benchmark for pricing? Thanks.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Greg, by way of time administration, I might say roughly half-half. Half of our time and sources are invested within the cell ecosystem half and the opposite half within the AI cloud and clever driving and different progress areas. As a result of it’s a comparatively diversified portfolio of companies, we attempt to set-up a extra versatile mechanisms or incentive constructions, in order that the workforce may be extra unbiased and pushed. For instance, the sensible EV firm, we’ve a strategic partnership with a really separate incentive construction for the workforce. And we lately raised cash for our sensible system firm. So going ahead, we are going to proceed to do that.

On the Apollo sensible driving companies, we are going to proceed to supply expertise at a really open and versatile method. I talked about we provide HD Maps, we provide AVP, we provide ANP and doubtlessly, we provide different combos of this type of expertise and companies. The pricing vary may differ primarily based on the interval of the contract and merchandise we provide. And it’s rising in a short time, and it’s, I’d say, it’s nonetheless evolving in a short time.

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah, and let me simply add a bit of, Greg. I feel Robin was very modest almost about answering your expertise query. Robin talked about how he spends his time. However extra importantly, as you could know, during the last two years, we’ve considerably strengthened our bench energy. So while you have a look at, for instance, the lead of our cell ecosystem, Dou, he’s a PhD. And we not solely have — know him from very younger, becoming a member of us six, seven years in the past. And in addition, if you happen to have a look at during the last 12 months, we’ve been aggressively hiring good skills beneath, Dou. In case you have a look at Dr. Wang, once more, he’s a PhD, and we’ve been serving to him construct his workforce beneath too. And also you have a look at, for instance, our EV firm, we’re searching for a CEO who’s out within the trade. So along with the occasions, Robin time and other people from group administration, we do spend a number of time constructing expertise. And I feel that’s why Robin is flexible, with the ability to handle all these companies as a result of a number of it’s on constructing that center stream at Baidu for every of the enterprise teams in order that they will run extra autonomously, as Robin had talked about, facilities and so forth.

Operator

Thanks. And subsequent query comes from Natalie Wu from Haitong Worldwide. Please ask your query.

Natalie Wu — Haitong Worldwide Securities Group Restricted — Analyst

Hello, thanks for taking my query and I want you a affluent Chinese language New Yr, Robin, Herman, and Juan. So my query is concerning the autonomous driving. So Apollo is absolute chief for the third-party service suppliers in that space. However simply curious, what are the closest opponents you’ll be able to consider concerning ASD, robotaxi, sensible metropolis transportation initiatives, these segments, respectively. Would love to listen to administration’s ideas on that. Thanks.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

You talked about the opponents from ASD, sensible transportation. What’s the third one?

Herman Yu — Chief Monetary Officer

MaaS.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

MaaS, okay.

Natalie Wu — Haitong Worldwide Securities Group Restricted — Analyst

The sensible metropolis transportation venture.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Yeah, certain. Yeah. By way of ASD, I feel that the primary opponents come from the normal Tier 1 corporations. However like I discussed, we’ve distinctive benefits, for instance, HD Maps. Principally, the non-Chinese language corporations are usually not allowed to supply high-definition maps. And for sensible transportation venture, there are a variety of extra conventional sensible transportation corporations domestically. Their enterprise mannequin is extra like promoting the {hardware} and full the venture and go away with it. However our mannequin is extra like an working mannequin. We’d proceed to optimize the throughput, cut back the visitors jam and enhance security for the general transportation system, in addition to allow autonomous driving and connecting highway with autos to present them extra steerage on the highway info and assist them to keep away from any form of congestion. So like I discussed, there could be another distributors that would compete in these areas. However while you actually examine in regards to the effecting of this type of initiatives, we’re a lot forward.

By way of MaaS, there are a variety of start-ups which have a trial or initiatives in scattered cities, but it surely’s in such an early stage. I feel the adoption will likely be just about pushed by the maturity of the expertise. And issues we’re effectively forward by way of expertise growth, I feel we’re solely restricted by {our capability} of penetrating the cities, and enhancing the expertise itself, probably not restricted by any opponents.

Operator

Thanks. Our final query for at the moment comes from Tian Hou from T.H. Capital. Please ask the query.

Tian Hou — T.H. Capital — Analyst

Yeah. Herman, Robin and Juan, [Foreign Speech] Okay. I’ve two fast questions. One is expounded to your Apollo autonomous driving. A whole lot of questions have been requested. So my query may be very brief. So on one hand, all of the modules you’re promoting by means of OEMs. However, you’re going to start out your individual EV corporations. So beneath what sort of circumstances, a few of your expertise, you’re going to only maintain your self as an alternative of licensing to others? In order that’s primary.

Quantity two, associated to the AI name heart resolution, so I’m very glad to see that operators they usually begin to buy. And I’m wondering what’s the potential for the AI name heart resolution. Who may be the potential prospects and what industries this name heart can apply to? In order that’s the 2 questions. Thanks.

Robin Li — Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Govt Officer

Yeah. For the primary query, Apollo is an open platform. All of our applied sciences can be found to our prospects. We’ll work with them to our greatest data and finest efforts. So something that we use for ourselves is out there to third-party too. It’s simply because we’ve a greater understanding of the expertise itself. We are able to higher combine software program with {hardware} and use the suggestions loop in a extra well timed vogue, in order that we will enhance our expertise quicker. In case you can examine this with the Home windows and Floor, proper? Floor serves as a benchmark for laptops. That’s just about like Apollo for third-party and for our personal EV.

On the AI resolution for name facilities, it really can be utilized in a number of industries. I discussed the airline trade, the telecom trade, the monetary companies trade. Wherever there may be customer support wants, that our AI name heart resolution may be utilized to. It’s really being utilized in quite a lot of completely different industries. And we’re going by means of Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, in order that the expertise proceed to enhance and the data base for that sure sector or for that sure firm may be seen. And the system will turn out to be sensible and smarter.

Operator

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